hope i can help out in a small way. here's a tougher smoothbase 121 toll in a great dark sage green, couple of pecks and a wee flake off the base, vnm.this is a good cause so don't hesitate-100% of the proceeds go to the effort, we will start it at 20$ .auction will close at 8:00 pm pacific time (11:00 pm atlantic) on thursday sept 29 2005.thank-you